More Whitley — in this part he talks about a technology that can effect the soul, to hold the souls in a kind of hell- the dark universe of his book 2012 . Reptilians like to capture the emotions of us humans. One of the other universe he talks about is like our world except no pollution and no wars , but evil wants in.The gateways are between the universes ( Evil. Light and In-between), the paths to move between them. 2012 , by than we will see without a doubt what is happening to our world. Mayas could see the Sky elements without telescopes. Mayas calendars were amazing — long count . They knew something strange/special about time, something we have forgotten.
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